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[water dripping]
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[water dripping continues]
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[bird chirping]
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- [dog barking in the distance]
- [insect buzz]
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[rooster crows in the distance]
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[María] I was six years old
when they went for my mother.
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People of the town, all of Franco.
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They found her the next day
on the side of the road.
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They couldn't put them in the cemetery.
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The people did not let them.
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Here it stays. [gasps]
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[adjusts the bridle]
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The day after tomorrow there are no more flowers here.
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They are no longer there.
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[adjusts the zip ties]
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It is the site of the grave.
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It's the pit.
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Look there.
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In that bramble... in those brambles
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They threw away the clothes.
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And they left them naked.
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[bleat]
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How unfair life is.
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Not life.
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Humans... we are unfair.
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[crickets chirping]
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[wind whistle]
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[melancholic music]
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[wind whistle]
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[explosions]
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[narrator] We called her
the Spanish civil war,
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but it began with a military coup.
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That's Franco, next to Hitler.
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Franco was the dictator of Spain
for almost 40 years.
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[screams]
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[chant] Franco!
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[cheers and applause]
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Spanish...
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Franco...
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has died.
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- [cheers]
- [music]
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[man] ♪ Finally the murderers
they are rotting. ♪
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♪ But instead ours
they are growing. ♪
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♪ And it's growing
the cry of amnesty. ♪
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♪ Soon we will walk along the Gran Vía. ♪
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♪ Let them come, yes. ♪
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[narrator] The left fought
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for an amnesty
to free political prisoners.
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[cheers]
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And they thought they had achieved it.
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[crowd sings]
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CONGRESS OF DEPUTIES, 1977
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But the new law
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he also granted amnesty
to all the crimes of the dictatorship.
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It came to be called "the pact of oblivion."
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It's just an oversight...
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An amnesty from all to all.
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A forgetfulness from everyone to everyone.
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A law can establish oblivion...
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but that forgetfulness must go down
to the entire society.
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We must ensure that this conception
from oblivion becomes widespread
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because it's the only way
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that we can shake hands without resentment.
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[narrator] Those of us who grew up
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after Franco
we don't know what really happened.
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Schools never taught us this.
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Our parents didn't tell us.
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And we can't tell it
to our children because we don't know.
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Come, I'm going to take you somewhere.
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I'm going to give you a little surprise.
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Okay?
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[bird chirping]
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This is the portal and that is the house.
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Antonio González Pacheco lives here,
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alias "Billy the Kid."
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That's the person
that he tortured me on three occasions
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when I was just over 20 years old.
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I am obliged to live together
a few meters from where I live
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with the same person who tortured me.
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It's that one.
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"Billy the Kid."
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I think he enjoyed producing terror.
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We have a lot of information about him.
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For example, he ran
the 33rd Madrid marathon...
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and that of New York.
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He is an untouchable character.
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But I think we have found a way
to bring him to justice.
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[winds up the toy]
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[soft music plays]
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[bell rings]
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- [Carlos] Very good.
- Don't tell me we're the last.
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The barbarians of the north.
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What's happening?
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Chavalote, how are you?
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[chatter and laughter]
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[Chato] Torturers there, we have 148.
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This is the famous, "Billy the Kid."
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We have selected seven that also
Then they have important positions.
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Well, the idea of imputing now
to a minister is very strong, right?
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Now this is the time
to go against "Billy the Kid",
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where it is incontestable and where no one
He will be able to come to his defense.
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[Albinoni's "Adagio in G minor" plays]
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[whistles softly]
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HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER
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[hums music]
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A little soft music, right?
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Albinoni, the "Adagios".
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If a person is murdered, it seems clear
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that justice
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must pursue the criminal,
must compensate the victim.
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However, when it comes
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of these crimes of genocide
and crimes against humanity,
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It's not so clear.
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Rather, they begin to meet
and look for arguments
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to try to say
that a lot of time has passed,
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that it is better to forget,
that you have to turn the page, etc.
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[panic screams]
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[siren blaring]
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CHILE, 80'S
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[women's cries]
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[screams, cries]
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[Carlos] How is it possible
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that justice can be done
in relation to this type of crimes
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committed by the State?
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Through involvement
from the different courts of the world.
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It is the idea of universal justice,
that is,
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that crimes against humanity
must be pursued at all times
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and every place,
by different courts around the world.
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The great example is
what happened in Chile with Pinochet.
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[crowd sings]
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LONDON, 1998
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[journalist in English] "No escape",
protesters shout
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in front of the London clinic
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where Augusto Pinochet is being held.
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The Spanish authorities
they have requested his arrest.
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[journalist in Spanish]
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The one who was a dictator
he remains under surveillance at this time,
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after it was communicated to him
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his arrest based on a petition
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from a Spanish judge, Baltasar Garzón.
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JUDGE BALTASAR GARZÓN
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[Carlos] I,
who was a lawyer in that case...
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We couldn't even believe ourselves
that Pinochet had been arrested.
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[applause]
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[chant] Justice! Justice was served!
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[Carlos] Make it clear,
and sends a very clear message to the world,
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What is it that these criminals
They cannot go unpunished,
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that his crimes are imprescriptible,
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that there are no borders to pursue them.
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WHEN JUDGE GARZÓN STARTS TO INVESTIGATE
THE CRIMES OF THE FRANQUISM,
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HE IS SUSPENDED FROM THE JUDICATURE,
WAITING FOR TRIAL.
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[journalist in English] Garzón is accused
of breaking a 1977 amnesty
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when investigating the death and disappearance
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of more than 100,000 civilians
during the Franco dictatorship.
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[Carlos in Spanish] Take advantage of the
prosecution of Judge Garzón to say
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that cannot be investigated
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in no way the crimes committed
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during the Franco dictatorship.
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[crowd sings]
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And then we decided
file the complaint in Argentina.
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[crowd cheers]
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A COMPLAINT IS FILED IN ARGENTINA
AGAINST THE CRIMES OF THE FRANQUISM
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2 COMPLAINANTS
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That will grow,
we have absolutely no doubt.
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Since this was publicly announced,
which was approximately four days ago,
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the amount is innumerable
of telephone communications,
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email communications
that have reached us
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of relatives of victims of Francoism.
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[everyone sings]
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♪ Wherever they go we will go looking for them. ♪
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[director] Are you ready
for your testimony?
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[Chato] Yes...
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[sighs]
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[director] If you could declare
In front of a judge, what would you say?
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I am in the lawsuit
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because I am claiming
my right to justice.
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I'm complaining... about my father's death.
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My father is buried in Baeza
with all the shot that there are,
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almost 900 something.
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[in Catalan] We are in the lawsuit
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for murder with a garrote
from my brother Salvador, who was 25 years old.
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[in Spanish] My father was one
of the slaves of Francoism.
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I have relatives who have passed
almost 20 years in prison.
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And the Falangists took him
to a road 30 kilometers away
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and they shot him.
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To my grandfather...
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They beat him to death...
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because he didn't say where his children were.
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What happens is that it has not been uncovered
the cake so far.
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[woman] And then,
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a way opens.
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A little door.
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Go! Well if we can resort
to universal justice!
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JUDGE MARÍA SERVINI IS APPOINTED
INSTRUCTING JUDGE OF THE COMPLAINT.
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YOUR ROLE IS TO LEAD THE INVESTIGATION,
COLLECT EVIDENCE
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AND PREPARE THE CASE FOR TRIAL.
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The Amnesty Law
what Spain has done
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that the Spanish judges cannot,
nor the Spanish justice, investigate.
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But the crimes that are
against humanity do not prescribe
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and there is no amnesty that can cover them up,
or not wanting to investigate.
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[everyone greets each other]
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You don't know what it's like to talk to people
80 years old who tells you:
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"I just want to talk to the judge."
because I could die."
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There are many people
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asking us for the possibility
to participate in videoconferences.
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We strongly believe that
are established in the procedure
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enough elements
to proceed with these measures.
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There is a lot to read.
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And what we need are witnesses, right?
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We need witnesses.
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[somber string music plays]
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HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER
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[Ana] In this case
there are several protagonists,
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but time is one of them.
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Those who do not wish to judge
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they are speculating a little about what
time takes away the victims.
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- [Ana] Hello.
- [María] Hello.
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[Ana] How are you?
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[María] Hello, beautiful.
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Very good, and you?
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- Thank you so much.
- [laughs]
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When they went for my mother,
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They put her in school, in jail,
which was the prison for women.
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There they...
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They cut their hair to zero.
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She hadn't done anything.
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They were reapers, they said it was from "reds."
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They paraded her throughout the town
with drum and bagpipe,
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so that everyone could come out.
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We were behind
all the boys in the town,
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but they wouldn't let me get close to her.
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That night they killed
27 men and three women.
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Lucia, María and my mother.
Faustina López González.
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And then my father said:
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"Try if you can one day,
take out the remains, and bring them to me."
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But I have always been alone.
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The children themselves fight among themselves.
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Some want it, others don't want it.
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I don't ask for revenge.
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- I ask for the remains...
- The right to bury him normally.
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...the remains,
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to get her with her husband.
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Nothing else. I don't ask for anything else.
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[Ana] Now we are introducing ourselves
to Argentina.
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It's going to be there in court.
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How am I going to go to Argentina...
in the condition I am in?
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No, go no. You don't need to go.
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The important thing is that they say:
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"Spain, at that time,
there were crimes against humanity."
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And when that is said,
the State will have the obligation
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to give the remains, to deliver...
When that is said...
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When I die...
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[strong wind blows]
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[narrator] Not far from María,
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one of the few monuments stands
to Franco's victims.
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[wind whistle]
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A few hours after its inauguration,
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after decades of democracy,
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someone shot at the statues.
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The sculptor estimated that the shots
they had completed their work.
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[thunder boom]
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The spirit of harmony and unity
They were born in the Spanish transition!
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FORMER PRESIDENT OF SPAIN
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That's not done by removing graves!
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nor removing bones,
not even throwing yourself at the head!
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It is done by working
every day seriously,
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- thinking about the future of the country!
- [applause]
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[journalist Jordi Évole]
Does it seem like common sense to you that in 2016
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thousands of Spaniards still do not know
where are your grandparents buried?
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FORMER PRESIDENT OF SPAIN
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I'm not sure it's true
what you tell me,
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I can't even do anything
the Government to fix it.
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Man, it is true, Mr. Rajoy.
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Yes, there are many people
who obviously doesn't know, of course.
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What seems more common sense to me is
Let's try that things like that
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will not be repeated in the future.
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And not be thinking about it
continuously to the past.
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Good night.
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KING OF SPAIN
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These are times to delve deeper into Spain
with open arms and outstretched hands,
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where no one stirs up old grudges
or open closed wounds.
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[director] Do you know what it is?
the pact of oblivion?
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[both] No.
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[director] Do you know what it is?
the Amnesty Law?
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No.
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Those things are not studied.
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The Amnesty Law...
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Hey...
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The truth is
That sounds a little familiar to me, but...
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No.
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We must forget, there is all the past
We have to forget it because it's been more than 40 years.
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Because some lost people in the war
on the part of the republicans,
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and other people lost
on the side of the Francoists.
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Forget everything and... And get ahead.
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Nothing is going forward with that anymore.
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[door squeaks]
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FORMER POLITICAL PRISON
SEGOVIA
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This, what is the toilet,
It was usually there.
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This has a lot to do with my hobby
to leave things in their place.
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When I was here I must have been... 24.
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I was convicted of illicit association
and illegal propaganda.
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[siren blaring]
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[tire screech]
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[screams in the distance]
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[sporadic gunshots]
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My story of opposition to the dictatorship
Franco period begins in the year 68,
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with the constitution of a union
democratic of students.
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- [people shouting]
- [man growls]
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There is no freedom of the press.
There is no right to assembly.
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[moans]
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[mermaid]
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A representative of that union,
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Enrique Ruano,
He is killed by the police.
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They shoot him twice in the head
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and they throw it out the window,
saying that he committed suicide.
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That is a tremendous impact.
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There I decided that there was nothing else
what to do in this life
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to end that dictatorship.
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- [cannon shot]
- [cries of alarm]
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[Kutxi] The dictatorship
for all my generation
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It was... depriving us of our freedom...
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of rights, of everything, right?
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We thought there was another way to live,
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fuller, in which we could be
happier people.
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I was ready to leave when...
the police called.
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00:27:21,806 --> 00:27:24,976
"Billy the Kid" got me in
a handkerchief in the mouth
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and, well, there, the blows and...
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00:27:33,276 --> 00:27:35,737
And we arrive
to the General Directorate of Security,
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which we normally called the DGS.
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[steps]
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No one knew you were there.
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That is, you disappeared.
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[door sound]
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- [knocks on the door]
- [sound of locks]
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[keys jingling]
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[echo of footsteps]
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FORMER GENERAL DIRECTORATE OF SECURITY
PUERTA DEL SOL, MADRID
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[man] In that house...
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[crowd] He tortured himself!
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00:28:14,567 --> 00:28:16,194
[man] In that house...
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00:28:16,277 --> 00:28:17,862
[crowd] They were being murdered!
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[the slogans continue]
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[man] It's 40 days with torture,
that is...
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00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:33,795
Well the truth is that something breaks you
inside and it will never be the same.
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There were thousands of people
whose whole life was broken.
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All that they were
and what they could become.
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00:28:46,182 --> 00:28:49,185
[voice broken] We have lost everything.
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00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:53,440
And we will have to fight again
to get what we've lost
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and much more.
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And I, even if it's the last thing I do,
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I will be there, denouncing this.
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00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:07,787
MAY 2013
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3 YEARS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE COMPLAINT
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89 COMPLAINANTS
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JUDGE SERVINI ORDERS
TO THE ARGENTINE CONSULATE IN MADRID
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THAT PROVIDES VIDEO CONFERENCES
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SO YOU CAN LISTEN TO THE TESTIMONIALS
FROM THE WITNESSES FROM ARGENTINA.
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[tests microphone] Yes. Hello.
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[Ana] This moment is a historic moment
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because they are going to testify before the judge
and, therefore, for the first time
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before a court of law,
those people
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who have presented themselves as plaintiffs.
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00:29:43,531 --> 00:29:46,201
I don't think we have given
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00:29:46,284 --> 00:29:49,120
such an important step
like the one we are going to give now, never.
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[woman] Good luck, precious.
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00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:55,293
- Ready?
- Yes.
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00:29:55,376 --> 00:29:56,669
[laughs]
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00:29:58,463 --> 00:30:00,590
- Hold on there.
- [laughs]
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00:30:12,435 --> 00:30:15,230
- [Ana] A delay of one hour. It didn't start.
- Oh no!
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With how susceptible we are,
Any little thing makes us start...
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- Let's think...
- [laughs]
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[cell phone rings]
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Yes, tell me.
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00:30:28,201 --> 00:30:29,077
Yes.
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Until now.
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00:30:32,413 --> 00:30:34,415
It seems that the ambassador called
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00:30:34,541 --> 00:30:36,960
- to the judge...
- Don't mess around.
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...with the story that if they were made
video conferencing,
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it meant breaking
relations with Spain.
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And then they were canceled
videoconferencing.
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00:31:04,112 --> 00:31:05,864
[Chato] What you put is:
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"Suspension due to pressure from the Government
Spanish of videoconferencing".
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00:31:13,496 --> 00:31:15,790
[Carlos] It's an attempt
to paralyze this cause
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00:31:15,915 --> 00:31:19,127
that the Government feels
that grows more and more,
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00:31:19,252 --> 00:31:21,212
that is increasingly unstoppable...
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00:31:23,506 --> 00:31:26,217
There are very powerful interests
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00:31:26,342 --> 00:31:30,221
what they want to prevent
that these facts be investigated.
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00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:35,727
[everyone sings "Face to the sun"]
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00:31:43,109 --> 00:31:48,031
FIRST ANNIVERSARY OF FRANCO'S DEATH
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[everyone sings "Face to the sun"]
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♪ Above squads to beat,
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00:31:59,751 --> 00:32:03,922
♪ that in Spain it begins to dawn. ♪
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00:32:04,005 --> 00:32:05,882
- [song ends]
- [applause]
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00:32:05,965 --> 00:32:10,303
- [man] Up Spain!
- [crowd exclaims with approval]
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00:32:10,386 --> 00:32:12,055
[applause]
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00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:16,267
LET'S MAKE SPAIN GREAT AGAIN
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00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:19,395
[the crowd chants] Franco!
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00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:27,528
FRANCO FOUNDATION
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00:32:28,529 --> 00:32:33,743
The most important thing, in my opinion,
to remember Franco,
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00:32:33,868 --> 00:32:38,414
is that he was never wrong.
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00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:44,087
Franco preserves
to Western and Christian civilization
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00:32:44,170 --> 00:32:46,172
of communist tyranny.
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00:32:48,716 --> 00:32:52,387
[narrator] Oblivion began
well before the amnesty.
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00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:56,224
EISENHOWER, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
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00:32:57,725 --> 00:33:00,186
The world chose to forget,
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00:33:00,269 --> 00:33:03,189
hugging Franco
in their fight against communism.
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00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:06,317
NIXON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
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00:33:07,318 --> 00:33:09,946
PAPAL NUNCIO ANTONIUTTI
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00:33:10,738 --> 00:33:13,366
DE GAULLE, PRESIDENT OF FRANCE
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00:33:13,992 --> 00:33:16,786
WALDHEIM, UN SECRETARY GENERAL
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00:33:18,913 --> 00:33:21,582
Regarding succession
to the head of state,
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everything has been tied and well tied,
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00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:26,379
with my designation as successor,
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00:33:26,462 --> 00:33:29,924
as king,
of Prince Juan Carlos de Borbón.
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00:33:30,633 --> 00:33:34,846
Receipt of your excellence,
the head of state and generalissimo Franco,
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00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:39,642
political legitimacy
emerged on July 18, 1936.
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00:33:39,726 --> 00:33:41,769
[applause]
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00:33:41,936 --> 00:33:48,359
KING OF SPAIN FROM 1975 TO 2014
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[narrator] After Franco's death,
many of the police officers, judges and politicians
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of the regime they simply continued.
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00:34:02,957 --> 00:34:05,752
[Alonso] I believe that this "forgetfulness"
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00:34:05,835 --> 00:34:10,923
rather it referred to ad intra, that is,
inside politicians.
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00:34:11,049 --> 00:34:15,428
In other words, they wanted the Spanish people
I didn't know that all those politicians
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They had previously been defenders
of the Francisco Franco regime.
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00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:22,643
Then oblivion interested them,
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00:34:22,727 --> 00:34:26,481
why talk about Franco
it was talking about his past.
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00:34:26,564 --> 00:34:29,692
[man] The result of the vote
is the following:
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296 affirmatives,
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00:34:32,945 --> 00:34:34,489
two negatives.
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00:34:34,655 --> 00:34:38,534
Gentlemen, it has been approved
the Amnesty Law.
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00:35:02,141 --> 00:35:06,187
I wrote to all the bosses,
as I call them.
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00:35:08,272 --> 00:35:09,982
To the king,
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00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:11,859
to the son,
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00:35:11,984 --> 00:35:13,236
to the president,
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00:35:13,319 --> 00:35:14,946
to the mayor here.
436
00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:22,537
"Hello, Mr. Judge
of the Supreme Court of Madrid.
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00:35:22,829 --> 00:35:26,707
My father, since they killed his wife,
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00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:31,129
The only answer I received:
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00:35:31,254 --> 00:35:37,301
'You will take her to the cemetery
when the frogs grow hair,
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00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,140
so don't bother me,
441
00:35:42,223 --> 00:35:46,686
let's not do it with you
what we did with her.'
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00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:55,945
I send you greetings from this woman
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00:35:56,028 --> 00:35:58,239
what's still waiting
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00:35:58,823 --> 00:36:01,659
that frogs grow hair.
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00:36:01,742 --> 00:36:03,703
"Mary Martin."
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00:36:05,705 --> 00:36:07,957
[woman] I'm lost, is it up here?
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00:36:08,082 --> 00:36:09,250
[man] Yes, but let's go this way.
448
00:36:09,375 --> 00:36:11,377
[woman] Okay. Better.
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00:36:13,379 --> 00:36:18,342
This is the town where it happened
everything from my grandmother's story.
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00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:23,723
I am María Ángeles Martín,
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00:36:23,848 --> 00:36:25,516
daughter of María Martín,
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00:36:25,641 --> 00:36:28,853
granddaughter of Faustina López, my grandmother,
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00:36:29,979 --> 00:36:32,732
murdered in Pedro Bernardo.
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00:36:34,650 --> 00:36:36,027
[chickens clucking]
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00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:51,709
[María] The kids were stoning us
on the roads.
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00:36:54,587 --> 00:37:00,968
And that you go down a street and have
we have to look to see where it escapes.
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00:37:01,093 --> 00:37:04,180
Because I found someone...
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00:37:04,305 --> 00:37:07,266
and they did this to me with their finger.
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00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:11,729
"We didn't have
than having left even a seed."
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00:37:20,696 --> 00:37:23,324
[María Ángeles] As I saw
that the Civil Guard was approaching,
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00:37:23,407 --> 00:37:25,952
my mother was afraid...
well, he peed on himself.
462
00:37:27,453 --> 00:37:28,829
[the bull snorts]
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00:37:28,913 --> 00:37:33,584
For her it wasn't
that would have changed in democracy.
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00:37:37,129 --> 00:37:41,842
Because it was the same institution,
the same people, the same mayor.
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00:37:45,471 --> 00:37:46,973
[unintelligible chatter]
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00:37:48,391 --> 00:37:49,809
I mean there are times
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00:37:49,892 --> 00:37:52,603
I'm not very supportive
to change the names of the streets.
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00:37:52,687 --> 00:37:56,565
Because it doesn't stop being history,
Whether good or bad, it is the history of a country.
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00:37:56,649 --> 00:37:57,483
Do you find in Germany
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00:37:57,566 --> 00:38:01,696
with some of these Hitler guys?
You don't come across any streets.
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00:38:01,821 --> 00:38:05,491
That was a bad story,
something that cannot be repeated!
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00:38:05,616 --> 00:38:06,450
The culture of a country
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00:38:06,534 --> 00:38:10,746
and the history of a country
They are based on good and bad, right?
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00:38:10,871 --> 00:38:12,873
And we also have to remember the bad, right?
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00:38:12,999 --> 00:38:16,502
- But so that it doesn't happen.
- So that it does not happen again.
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00:38:16,585 --> 00:38:20,172
- But not to remember it.
- No.
477
00:38:20,256 --> 00:38:22,425
- I can't handle it.
- [man] But why?
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00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:25,761
I mean, it seems to me that that is something
what should have been done
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00:38:25,845 --> 00:38:27,847
a lot of years ago.
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00:38:28,222 --> 00:38:32,059
SON OF MARÍA MARTIN
481
00:38:39,233 --> 00:38:43,070
I live on General Yagüe street.
482
00:38:43,654 --> 00:38:47,783
General Yagüe is one of the generals
rebelled with Franco,
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00:38:47,908 --> 00:38:51,704
that is known
as "the Butcher of Badajoz",
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00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:56,625
because he made 4000 or so prisoners
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00:38:56,709 --> 00:39:01,797
in the bullring of Badajoz,
whom he ended up shooting.
486
00:39:03,257 --> 00:39:07,470
I get up every day
living on the street
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00:39:07,553 --> 00:39:11,474
dedicated to that type of war criminal.
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00:39:13,434 --> 00:39:15,519
["The Will-o'-the-Wisp Song" plays
of Failure]
489
00:39:16,145 --> 00:39:17,813
[the salesman shouts]
490
00:39:27,907 --> 00:39:32,203
FRANCO SHIELD
491
00:39:55,393 --> 00:40:00,314
FRANCO VICTORY ARCH
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00:40:10,366 --> 00:40:13,702
[Chato] I have the feeling
that we are stuck.
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00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:18,958
we have to do
that the complaint is alive again.
494
00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:21,293
[Carlos] We present the complaint
three years ago.
495
00:40:21,419 --> 00:40:24,380
We cannot consent
May this continue to expand further.
496
00:40:24,505 --> 00:40:27,425
The fundamentals of a complaint
This nature is the social movement.
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00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:30,177
And therefore we have to develop
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00:40:30,261 --> 00:40:32,888
imagination to see how,
through the social movement,
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00:40:33,013 --> 00:40:35,391
There is pressure to move this forward.
500
00:40:36,517 --> 00:40:37,726
There is no town in Spain
501
00:40:37,810 --> 00:40:40,646
where there is not
victims of Francoism, right?
502
00:40:44,817 --> 00:40:46,360
[everyone greets each other]
503
00:40:50,948 --> 00:40:52,366
[unintelligible speech]
504
00:40:55,536 --> 00:40:57,580
[Chato] It's not something that looks back.
505
00:40:57,705 --> 00:41:00,207
We are fighting for the future.
506
00:41:00,624 --> 00:41:04,086
We are going to join as an Association
of the Historical Memory of Lora del Río.
507
00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:08,257
[man] We are going to adhere
to this project,
508
00:41:08,382 --> 00:41:10,593
with great enthusiasm.
509
00:41:14,930 --> 00:41:17,391
We are interested in putting it in the towns.
510
00:41:17,516 --> 00:41:23,105
The collection of signatures of support,
and the motions of the town councils.
511
00:41:23,898 --> 00:41:27,067
Town hall to town hall.
512
00:41:30,988 --> 00:41:33,991
[Carlos] If the judge actually decides
impute and dictate
513
00:41:34,116 --> 00:41:37,453
international arrest warrants
Regarding these people,
514
00:41:37,578 --> 00:41:41,582
the possibilities that are open to us
They expand absolutely.
515
00:41:41,665 --> 00:41:43,501
And all this is going to be a snowball.
516
00:41:58,891 --> 00:42:00,309
My name is María de las Mercedes Bueno.
517
00:42:00,434 --> 00:42:02,311
I was born in a town
from the province of Cádiz,
518
00:42:02,436 --> 00:42:05,147
in the Campo de Gibraltar, in La Línea.
519
00:42:05,648 --> 00:42:06,857
[seagull squawks]
520
00:42:10,736 --> 00:42:13,948
I was pregnant when I was 18.
521
00:42:15,783 --> 00:42:17,076
At that time,
522
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:20,329
being a single mother was also
a terrifying stigma, huh?
523
00:42:23,749 --> 00:42:25,251
[music plays]
524
00:42:25,334 --> 00:42:28,170
My gynecologist admits me to the hospital.
525
00:42:28,837 --> 00:42:34,009
That was December 24,
Christmas Eve.
526
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,391
And he tells me: "I'm going to put you to sleep,
so that nothing hits your head."
527
00:42:45,187 --> 00:42:46,772
The next day,
528
00:42:46,855 --> 00:42:49,316
they told me the baby was dead.
529
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,486
And they tell me
who is in charge of the entire hospital.
530
00:43:00,035 --> 00:43:02,913
Twenty-eight years later,
I get on the internet
531
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,750
and they start to leave
a lot of cases of stolen children
532
00:43:06,834 --> 00:43:09,253
at the Municipal Hospital of La Línea,
533
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,964
with this doctor.
534
00:43:12,881 --> 00:43:18,512
And I realized that there were thousands of babies
stolen in Spain... throughout the country.
535
00:43:18,804 --> 00:43:21,265
...all cases seem to have
a common denominator.
536
00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:23,517
The children are not buried
in the cemetery...
537
00:43:23,642 --> 00:43:26,478
...of the three coffins,
two were empty.
538
00:43:26,604 --> 00:43:29,940
They only had bandages and sawdust.
539
00:43:31,692 --> 00:43:32,860
we wanted to see
540
00:43:32,943 --> 00:43:36,196
where the inscription supposedly is
of my daughter's funeral
541
00:43:36,322 --> 00:43:38,991
on December 24, 81.
542
00:43:41,201 --> 00:43:43,537
Well with Bueno Morales
none appear here.
543
00:43:43,621 --> 00:43:45,873
- Nothing?
- Nothing.
544
00:43:46,915 --> 00:43:53,547
I discovered that all this barbarity
It began back in 1940, with the Franco regime.
545
00:43:57,217 --> 00:43:58,802
[baby crying]
546
00:44:02,139 --> 00:44:04,600
[narrator] There had always been rumors.
547
00:44:08,145 --> 00:44:11,231
This is Dr. Vallejo Nágera.
548
00:44:11,315 --> 00:44:14,193
He studied the eugenics of Nazi Germany
549
00:44:14,276 --> 00:44:18,489
and became chief
of Franco's military psychiatry.
550
00:44:27,498 --> 00:44:28,999
[baby crying]
551
00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:35,464
He stated that the "leftists"
they carried a "red gene."
552
00:44:36,799 --> 00:44:39,301
And he decided to purge that gene,
553
00:44:39,426 --> 00:44:43,222
separating the children of the defeated
from their parents.
554
00:44:47,643 --> 00:44:52,689
Thousands of boys and girls were delivered
to families adept at the regime.
555
00:44:58,153 --> 00:45:01,782
Over time,
it is believed that this practice evolved,
556
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:07,121
but the justification
it went from being political to being moral.
557
00:45:07,913 --> 00:45:10,582
Now the target was single mothers
558
00:45:10,666 --> 00:45:13,502
and poor families with "too many" children.
559
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,049
[Carlos] You know that in Argentina
560
00:45:19,133 --> 00:45:20,968
is calculated
that there are approximately 500 children
561
00:45:21,051 --> 00:45:22,970
appropriated by the military dictatorship.
562
00:45:23,053 --> 00:45:24,763
In Spain, however, we count them
563
00:45:24,847 --> 00:45:28,976
by tens and perhaps hundreds of thousands
the appropriate children.
564
00:45:29,059 --> 00:45:33,814
I understand that the heaviest background of this
complaint are the crimes of the Franco regime,
565
00:45:33,897 --> 00:45:35,816
But there we are!
566
00:45:36,483 --> 00:45:40,612
Because when there is a system
which is produced for 40 years,
567
00:45:40,696 --> 00:45:43,574
it is impossible to stop the machinery
in the year 75.
568
00:45:43,657 --> 00:45:47,536
That went on and on.
And those practices continued.
569
00:45:47,619 --> 00:45:50,747
We love our children,
alive or dead.
570
00:45:52,916 --> 00:45:54,460
That's all we ask for.
571
00:45:55,169 --> 00:45:57,880
And it's not much. It's so little.
572
00:45:57,963 --> 00:46:00,674
It's so little that it's a pittance.
what we are asking for.
573
00:46:01,049 --> 00:46:03,093
[voice broken]
Because there are many miserable people...
574
00:46:04,219 --> 00:46:05,846
[cries]
575
00:46:15,689 --> 00:46:17,691
[melancholic string music plays]
576
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:24,740
[inaudible]
577
00:46:40,589 --> 00:46:42,799
SEPTEMBER 2013
578
00:46:42,883 --> 00:46:44,676
3 AND A HALF YEARS SINCE THE BEGINNING
OF THE COMPLAINT
579
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,514
235 COMPLAINTERS
580
00:46:49,223 --> 00:46:50,891
[unintelligible chatter]
581
00:46:52,976 --> 00:46:54,144
[a cell phone rings]
582
00:46:56,563 --> 00:46:57,564
Look.
583
00:46:58,649 --> 00:47:03,278
Servini issued an arrest warrant
for four torturers.
584
00:47:04,655 --> 00:47:06,240
This is historic!
585
00:47:06,323 --> 00:47:08,450
[both exclaim with joy]
586
00:47:09,076 --> 00:47:11,787
[presenter] An Argentine judge
who investigates the crimes of Franco's regime
587
00:47:11,912 --> 00:47:15,874
has asked Spain and also Interpol
the arrest of four members
588
00:47:15,958 --> 00:47:16,875
of the security forces
589
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,796
to be able to question them
for an alleged crime of torture.
590
00:47:20,879 --> 00:47:21,880
Who are they charging?
591
00:47:21,964 --> 00:47:22,839
Billy?
592
00:47:22,965 --> 00:47:24,216
Good!
593
00:47:24,675 --> 00:47:26,718
Host! Good!
594
00:47:26,802 --> 00:47:28,762
Now is when the fight begins, huh?
595
00:47:28,845 --> 00:47:30,013
[laughs]
596
00:47:31,098 --> 00:47:35,686
We have taken a fairly momentous step,
certainly, right?
597
00:47:36,019 --> 00:47:38,313
Come on, toast!
598
00:47:38,689 --> 00:47:40,274
[everyone toasts]
599
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,322
Where are we?
600
00:47:47,447 --> 00:47:49,324
- In the New York Times, daughter.
- [surprised expression]
601
00:47:49,408 --> 00:47:51,660
- Let's see!
- [laughs]
602
00:47:51,827 --> 00:47:55,289
Try to move here,
so that the door comes out better.
603
00:47:55,372 --> 00:47:57,291
[animated talk]
604
00:48:03,255 --> 00:48:04,590
[laughs]
605
00:48:20,939 --> 00:48:22,733
[unintelligible announcement over public address system]
606
00:48:23,775 --> 00:48:29,281
NOT BEING ABLE TO TESTIFY IN SPAIN, A GROUP
OF COMPLAINTERS FLIES TO ARGENTINA.
607
00:48:30,741 --> 00:48:32,367
[camera clicking sounds]
608
00:48:35,537 --> 00:48:37,539
[applause]
609
00:48:42,002 --> 00:48:45,047
My name is Ascensión Mendieta Ibarra,
610
00:48:45,505 --> 00:48:50,427
and I'm in the lawsuit
to see if we can get my father out.
611
00:48:51,928 --> 00:48:54,473
I had already lost hope...
612
00:48:56,767 --> 00:48:58,602
But I have that illusion.
613
00:48:59,102 --> 00:49:01,229
Now I'll be able to see it.
614
00:49:20,707 --> 00:49:24,878
JUDGE SERVINI
615
00:49:25,671 --> 00:49:28,340
[Servini] It's a pleasure
have them here with me.
616
00:49:28,423 --> 00:49:32,344
If anyone wants to say something, I listen to them.
617
00:49:32,427 --> 00:49:33,762
My name is Paqui Maqueda.
618
00:49:33,845 --> 00:49:36,848
Today I bring you the names
of 22,000 men and women
619
00:49:36,973 --> 00:49:39,434
that are missing
in this region of Andalusia.
620
00:49:39,518 --> 00:49:41,770
I also bring you immense thanks
621
00:49:42,396 --> 00:49:44,523
and also our hopes.
622
00:49:45,399 --> 00:49:51,446
my father passed away
on November 16, 39.
623
00:49:51,571 --> 00:49:56,702
When we...
He died and left seven children, all small.
624
00:49:56,827 --> 00:50:00,497
We wanted to see if justice could be done
625
00:50:00,580 --> 00:50:03,583
to be able to remove him from a common grave.
626
00:50:03,667 --> 00:50:05,752
[Servini] I want you to understand
627
00:50:05,836 --> 00:50:10,173
than investigating crimes in other countries
For us it is difficult.
628
00:50:10,257 --> 00:50:15,137
If I don't do more it's because sometimes
We have a series of drawbacks.
629
00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:19,766
For me, this is the most important cause
that I have in court.
630
00:50:20,058 --> 00:50:22,018
I'm going to do what I have to do.
631
00:50:25,021 --> 00:50:27,733
- [man] A rainbow.
- [woman] A rainbow.
632
00:50:29,025 --> 00:50:32,195
Man, it's a signal trip,
I am very convinced.
633
00:50:32,279 --> 00:50:34,281
Come on, do you believe
What a beautiful rainbow...?
634
00:50:42,706 --> 00:50:44,916
[everyone sings]
635
00:50:49,129 --> 00:50:51,047
[everyone chants slogans]
636
00:50:53,216 --> 00:50:54,885
[narrator] Since the 80s,
637
00:50:54,968 --> 00:50:57,804
as dictatorships fall
in Latin America,
638
00:50:58,764 --> 00:51:03,101
many countries used
the Spanish pact of oblivion as a model.
639
00:51:06,021 --> 00:51:11,276
But over time, the citizens put pressure
to obtain truth and justice,
640
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:16,490
and one by one, these countries
they repealed their amnesty laws.
641
00:51:16,615 --> 00:51:18,325
[cheers]
642
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,920
It has been brought to trial
to former leaders, police officers and judges.
643
00:51:30,003 --> 00:51:31,213
[speaks in French]
644
00:51:31,296 --> 00:51:33,256
RWANDA
645
00:51:34,049 --> 00:51:35,926
[narrator] Today, all over the world,
646
00:51:36,009 --> 00:51:37,594
truth commissions
647
00:51:37,677 --> 00:51:41,598
and the special courts
they work to reveal the past.
648
00:51:41,681 --> 00:51:42,933
[judge speaks in Khmer]
649
00:51:43,016 --> 00:51:45,268
CAMBODIA
650
00:51:49,731 --> 00:51:54,152
[narrator] Former prisons and camps
of extermination have become museums
651
00:51:54,236 --> 00:51:57,531
where people are encouraged to remember.
652
00:52:00,450 --> 00:52:05,622
FORMER SECRET DETENTION CENTER
ARGENTINA
653
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:08,166
[guide] All decisions
about what was happening in here,
654
00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:10,252
Who to kidnap, who not to,
655
00:52:10,335 --> 00:52:11,962
how the operating sector...
656
00:52:12,045 --> 00:52:16,800
With that our tears fall.
See a school.
657
00:52:16,883 --> 00:52:18,510
When will we see
658
00:52:18,593 --> 00:52:21,471
a school entering
in the General Directorate of Security
659
00:52:21,555 --> 00:52:24,266
saying: "Look,
"They tortured Chato here"?
660
00:52:24,850 --> 00:52:26,518
[seagull squawks]
661
00:52:40,365 --> 00:52:43,994
NATIONAL COURT
MADRID
662
00:52:44,953 --> 00:52:48,790
WHILE THE PLAINTIFFS WAIT
TO WITNESS IN ARGENTINA,
663
00:52:48,874 --> 00:52:53,461
THE NATIONAL COURT IN SPAIN CALLS
TO THE CHARGED TORTURERS.
664
00:52:55,046 --> 00:52:57,549
[journalist] The process continues
extradition to Argentina
665
00:52:57,632 --> 00:53:00,302
by Antonio González Pacheco,
aka "Billy the Kid",
666
00:53:00,385 --> 00:53:02,846
and the former civil guard
Jesus Dolls Aguilar.
667
00:53:03,847 --> 00:53:05,807
[Korea crowd slogans]
668
00:53:07,893 --> 00:53:11,313
[the crowd continues with the slogans]
Extradition, torturers!
669
00:53:15,025 --> 00:53:17,319
It is the first time that, before a court,
670
00:53:17,402 --> 00:53:19,738
the voice of the victims will be heard,
671
00:53:19,863 --> 00:53:24,117
and it can be heard 10,000 kilometers away
away from our country, right?
672
00:53:24,951 --> 00:53:26,369
[unintelligible chatter]
673
00:53:26,453 --> 00:53:27,871
[the door opens]
674
00:53:29,539 --> 00:53:31,041
Come on, cheer up!
675
00:53:35,545 --> 00:53:38,006
Lady, how are you? Happens.
Take a seat there, please.
676
00:53:40,216 --> 00:53:41,343
I ask you...
677
00:53:43,178 --> 00:53:44,220
Oh.
678
00:53:55,941 --> 00:53:58,443
[overlapping and unintelligible voices]
679
00:53:59,945 --> 00:54:04,366
[woman] ...my family was exiled,
like more than half a million Spaniards...
680
00:54:05,325 --> 00:54:09,037
[man] ...my grandfather was assigned to the
Camposancos concentration camp...
681
00:54:11,289 --> 00:54:16,461
[man in Basque] ...I was
in Franco's prisons until 1977...
682
00:54:17,754 --> 00:54:21,508
[woman] ...they disappeared my father.
They threw him into a well...
683
00:54:23,051 --> 00:54:25,804
[woman] ...the theft of
my twin brother, Francisco...
684
00:54:27,180 --> 00:54:30,350
[woman] ...because they took us away
the family house...
685
00:54:31,935 --> 00:54:35,146
[woman] ...because we were victims
of anti-tuberculosis preventives...
686
00:54:36,022 --> 00:54:38,942
[man] ...the killing of workers
in Vitoria...
687
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:40,944
[overlapping voices]
688
00:54:42,445 --> 00:54:44,572
[man] ...have not been cancelled
the sentences.
689
00:54:44,656 --> 00:54:47,200
We are still considered criminals...
690
00:54:47,617 --> 00:54:51,955
[woman] ...to be able to give him to my mother
a small margin of justice...
691
00:54:53,373 --> 00:54:55,917
[woman] ...so that it does not happen again.
692
00:55:04,426 --> 00:55:06,052
[camera clicks]
693
00:55:07,262 --> 00:55:08,930
[man] What a show!
694
00:55:13,810 --> 00:55:17,230
[crowd shouts] Murderers!
695
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,776
[screams continue]
696
00:55:21,860 --> 00:55:24,821
[journalist] Have you accepted extradition?
697
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,242
"I'll keep the passports,"
Pablo Ruz has come to say.
698
00:55:29,325 --> 00:55:32,495
They have been removed, they are forced
to appear weekly in court
699
00:55:32,579 --> 00:55:35,373
and prohibits them from leaving the country...
700
00:55:35,457 --> 00:55:39,711
The next step in this process will be
the extradition hearing itself.
701
00:55:49,929 --> 00:55:51,723
- [both laugh]
- [man] How are you?
702
00:55:51,806 --> 00:55:53,641
Very good...
703
00:55:54,768 --> 00:55:56,394
[both greet each other]
704
00:55:57,812 --> 00:55:59,022
Quiet...
705
00:56:00,690 --> 00:56:01,691
[sobs]
706
00:56:03,234 --> 00:56:07,489
[Chato] Today, for the first time in 77 years,
707
00:56:07,572 --> 00:56:10,116
two torturers of Franco's regime
708
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:15,872
They have had to attend court
to a judge's questions
709
00:56:15,955 --> 00:56:18,458
about the crimes they committed.
710
00:56:18,583 --> 00:56:20,585
It's a first step.
711
00:56:22,212 --> 00:56:26,716
We will see nothing!
to the first criminal in jail!
712
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,885
[cheers and applause]
713
00:56:35,892 --> 00:56:37,685
- [screams with joy]
- [laughs]
714
00:56:43,691 --> 00:56:46,736
Don't worry,
that we will bring those bones.
715
00:56:48,029 --> 00:56:50,073
[everyone says goodbye]
716
00:56:53,493 --> 00:56:58,123
THREE MONTHS LATER
717
00:57:00,250 --> 00:57:02,377
[woman] Do you want a coffee?
Shall I get you a coffee?
718
00:57:02,502 --> 00:57:03,503
Yes.
719
00:57:06,339 --> 00:57:08,133
Poor thing, she always says it,
720
00:57:08,258 --> 00:57:11,886
that when they killed him,
If he was really dead?
721
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:18,059
How would it fall? If it will be on its side,
if it will be upside down... Well...
722
00:57:19,436 --> 00:57:21,187
DAUGHTER OF ASCENSION
723
00:57:21,271 --> 00:57:22,397
[sighs]
724
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,690
[sobs]
725
00:57:28,445 --> 00:57:32,449
I remember perfectly
that spent years and years and years
726
00:57:32,574 --> 00:57:35,785
pining for her father, poor thing.
727
00:57:39,622 --> 00:57:41,040
[bell rings]
728
00:57:43,626 --> 00:57:44,502
What has happened?
729
00:57:45,462 --> 00:57:46,379
I don't know...
730
00:57:47,922 --> 00:57:48,840
Hello. There it goes!
731
00:57:49,382 --> 00:57:50,717
ACTIVIST FOR HISTORICAL MEMORY
732
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,177
[Chon snorts]
733
00:57:54,554 --> 00:57:56,890
Nothing, well I come
to give you some news, it seems.
734
00:57:57,015 --> 00:57:58,475
- How are you, son?
- Hello.
735
00:57:59,809 --> 00:58:03,480
The judge has asked the Spanish justice system
that exhumes your father.
736
00:58:03,605 --> 00:58:05,398
- [Ascension] Let them take him out?
- Yes.
737
00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:08,276
- [Ascension] Oh, my mother, what joy!
- [Emilio laughs]
738
00:58:08,359 --> 00:58:12,238
Oh, if I die, I'll take the bones with me
of my father. Oh, dear mother. [sobs]
739
00:58:13,531 --> 00:58:14,949
[Emilio] I'm very happy...
740
00:58:15,033 --> 00:58:16,993
[both sob]
741
00:58:17,076 --> 00:58:18,661
I mean, are they going to remove it?
742
00:58:18,745 --> 00:58:19,621
[Emilio] She has asked
743
00:58:19,704 --> 00:58:22,165
to Spanish justice
let him do what he has to do.
744
00:58:22,248 --> 00:58:24,626
- Thank you very much, son.
- [Emilio] You're welcome.
745
00:58:25,251 --> 00:58:26,586
[Ascension] Oh, so long...
746
00:58:26,669 --> 00:58:28,046
[Chon snorts]
747
00:58:29,088 --> 00:58:34,010
My sister died with desire
to get him out and we never could.
748
00:58:34,135 --> 00:58:36,429
[Emilio] Well,
Your trip has served a lot.
749
00:58:36,554 --> 00:58:38,014
Oh, dear mother...
750
00:58:39,015 --> 00:58:40,767
How happy it makes me, my God.
751
00:58:40,850 --> 00:58:43,603
I'm going to die at ease.
752
00:58:43,686 --> 00:58:47,023
Because I already know that I'm going to see him,
753
00:58:47,106 --> 00:58:50,193
even if it's a bone,
or ash or whatever you want it to be.
754
00:58:50,318 --> 00:58:51,653
[both sob]
755
00:58:52,695 --> 00:58:54,155
[bird chirping]
756
00:59:02,872 --> 00:59:05,208
[narrator] In this area of the cemetery,
757
00:59:05,291 --> 00:59:08,461
each tombstone covers a mass grave.
758
00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:12,465
It is believed that there are more than 200 people,
759
00:59:12,632 --> 00:59:15,093
including the father of Ascension.
760
00:59:23,309 --> 00:59:27,480
They can still be seen, against the wall,
the bullet shots.
761
00:59:27,605 --> 00:59:29,607
[melancholic music plays]
762
00:59:32,735 --> 00:59:36,990
For 40 years,
this part of the cemetery was closed.
763
00:59:37,532 --> 00:59:40,577
Family members threw flowers
above the wall,
764
00:59:40,702 --> 00:59:42,453
and they cried against her.
765
00:59:46,249 --> 00:59:49,252
Right at the entrance to the cemetery itself,
766
00:59:49,335 --> 00:59:52,755
a monument honors
to the many defenders of Franco
767
00:59:52,839 --> 00:59:55,091
who died during the war.
768
01:00:02,056 --> 01:00:05,852
Franco is buried
in the largest monument.
769
01:00:08,646 --> 01:00:10,940
The Valley of the Fallen.
770
01:00:16,654 --> 01:00:19,449
Spain is full of mass graves.
771
01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:21,993
In the gutters.
772
01:00:24,037 --> 01:00:25,455
In cemeteries.
773
01:00:27,498 --> 01:00:29,959
In the middle of the field.
774
01:00:32,670 --> 01:00:37,216
In the year 2000 they began to form
Historical Memory organizations,
775
01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:40,595
financed by the victims themselves.
776
01:00:42,263 --> 01:00:43,598
Since then,
777
01:00:43,681 --> 01:00:46,100
without any court order,
778
01:00:46,184 --> 01:00:51,022
the remains have been recovered
of 8000 men and women.
779
01:00:55,193 --> 01:00:58,988
But more than 100,000 are still waiting.
780
01:01:02,992 --> 01:01:04,535
[crickets chirping]
781
01:01:17,090 --> 01:01:19,425
We're here for the DNA thing, first.
782
01:01:19,550 --> 01:01:20,802
For the DM thing.
783
01:01:20,927 --> 01:01:22,845
- A-D-N.
- ADM.
784
01:01:22,929 --> 01:01:25,014
- N, N.
- M, N.
785
01:01:25,098 --> 01:01:26,307
[laughs]
786
01:01:26,766 --> 01:01:27,767
The DNA.
787
01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:30,895
- DNA.
- DNA.
788
01:01:31,020 --> 01:01:32,897
Yes, and why are they going to take it?
789
01:01:33,189 --> 01:01:34,774
[Ascension] To see if I am
my father's daughter
790
01:01:34,899 --> 01:01:36,109
That is.
791
01:01:36,234 --> 01:01:39,487
And your father is your father, and you are his daughter.
792
01:01:39,612 --> 01:01:43,324
Because there are many more people
buried with him.
793
01:01:44,575 --> 01:01:45,910
[man] Full name?
794
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,288
Ascension... Well,
Illuminated Ascension Mendieta Ibarra.
795
01:01:54,001 --> 01:01:55,002
I'm going to ask you to open your mouth.
796
01:01:55,086 --> 01:01:55,920
Do I open?
797
01:01:56,045 --> 01:01:58,089
And I'm going to rub it
on the inside of the cheek.
798
01:01:58,214 --> 01:02:01,175
- Should I remove my dentures?
- No, it's not necessary.
799
01:02:01,259 --> 01:02:02,468
[Chon laughs]
800
01:02:10,059 --> 01:02:11,018
[sighs]
801
01:02:11,102 --> 01:02:12,019
That's it.
802
01:02:12,145 --> 01:02:13,896
Thank you. [laughs]
803
01:02:16,816 --> 01:02:19,026
[everyone exchanges greetings]
804
01:02:19,110 --> 01:02:23,740
ASSOCIATION FOR STOLEN BABIES
FROM ANDALUSIA
805
01:02:26,576 --> 01:02:28,119
[María Mercedes]
Your birth was normal, right?
806
01:02:28,202 --> 01:02:30,121
Normal. A perfect birth. A good birth.
807
01:02:31,164 --> 01:02:32,832
The doctor enters,
808
01:02:33,791 --> 01:02:37,378
Take my boy, he turned his back on me
and walked out the door.
809
01:02:37,462 --> 01:02:39,547
They don't explain anything to me.
810
01:02:39,630 --> 01:02:42,133
They don't put the bracelet on me,
They don't put a bracelet on my child...
811
01:02:42,216 --> 01:02:43,801
- [María Mercedes] They took the child.
- They took my child.
812
01:02:43,885 --> 01:02:47,430
- And you didn't see the child again?
- No. Never again.
813
01:02:47,930 --> 01:02:51,309
And he tells me: "Look, your son has died."
814
01:02:52,059 --> 01:02:54,187
- Did they give you a medical report?
- [woman] Nothing, there is nothing.
815
01:02:54,270 --> 01:02:56,314
[woman] My case was very similar to yours.
816
01:02:56,439 --> 01:02:58,524
The treatment, the principle... all that.
817
01:02:58,608 --> 01:03:00,610
They are photocopies.
818
01:03:00,693 --> 01:03:01,527
my god,
819
01:03:01,611 --> 01:03:04,405
How can we live with this truth...
with this truth in my heart,
820
01:03:04,489 --> 01:03:06,032
and hidden there?
821
01:03:06,532 --> 01:03:09,786
They are closing our cases,
They are archiving them...
822
01:03:09,911 --> 01:03:13,372
[woman] I would like that. If we can reach
to put ourselves before a judge...
823
01:03:13,456 --> 01:03:14,540
[María Mercedes] Yes you can.
824
01:03:14,624 --> 01:03:17,460
I've gone away, I've done it
through the Argentine complaint.
825
01:03:17,543 --> 01:03:20,129
So, we have the lawyers,
who work for free.
826
01:03:20,755 --> 01:03:22,173
You may succeed in the lawsuit
827
01:03:22,256 --> 01:03:24,383
whatever has to prosper,
It may also not be.
828
01:03:24,884 --> 01:03:27,136
But at least I have an open path.
829
01:03:27,220 --> 01:03:28,888
[everyone murmurs and nods]
830
01:03:38,272 --> 01:03:40,233
[Carlos] We have in the lawsuit
831
01:03:40,358 --> 01:03:45,154
names of doctors, midwives and nuns
who kidnapped children.
832
01:03:46,113 --> 01:03:49,784
Company names
who benefited from slave labor...
833
01:03:51,661 --> 01:03:55,832
We can't take long
in filing complaints...
834
01:03:55,957 --> 01:03:57,250
strong.
835
01:03:58,584 --> 01:04:03,339
[Chato] We have names of ministers,
like Martín Villa,
836
01:04:03,464 --> 01:04:05,800
who was a minister during the dictatorship
837
01:04:05,883 --> 01:04:10,471
and later he would be vice president
during democracy.
838
01:04:15,184 --> 01:04:18,020
[Carlos] The Argentine judge
has come to Spain.
839
01:04:21,148 --> 01:04:22,775
[camera clicks]
840
01:04:27,446 --> 01:04:30,491
He sent an exhortation.
The Spanish Government transferred him
841
01:04:30,575 --> 01:04:32,243
to the different courts of Spain,
842
01:04:32,368 --> 01:04:34,453
in which he took a statement.
843
01:04:37,123 --> 01:04:39,709
This was a fairly unprecedented measure.
844
01:04:39,792 --> 01:04:41,460
...give him a kiss.
845
01:04:41,544 --> 01:04:45,882
And the thanks... And the thanks
for everything he is doing.
846
01:04:46,716 --> 01:04:50,553
[Servini] I have heard
167 statements.
847
01:04:50,636 --> 01:04:53,598
And us too
We're a little excited to see...
848
01:04:53,681 --> 01:04:56,767
It gives us a little emotion, but...
849
01:04:57,393 --> 01:05:00,980
we have to be cold and objective.
850
01:05:02,690 --> 01:05:06,402
UN SPECIAL RAPPORTEUR
851
01:05:07,111 --> 01:05:09,363
[presenter]
These days the darkest chapter
852
01:05:09,447 --> 01:05:12,408
of our history
is being examined by the UN.
853
01:05:12,491 --> 01:05:16,871
This includes recommendations
854
01:05:16,954 --> 01:05:21,334
concerning depriving of effects
the Amnesty Law of 1977.
855
01:05:22,335 --> 01:05:26,797
Because the victims,
no wonder, they don't forget.
856
01:05:41,812 --> 01:05:44,565
APRIL 2014
857
01:05:44,649 --> 01:05:49,028
4 YEARS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE COMPLAINT
858
01:05:54,116 --> 01:05:56,827
[journalist] Tomorrow is "Billy the Kid"
the one who will have to appear
859
01:05:56,994 --> 01:05:59,205
at the National Court
for his extradition hearing.
860
01:05:59,664 --> 01:06:02,583
He is wanted for a crime of torture
which he would have committed on 13 people
861
01:06:02,667 --> 01:06:06,587
between the years 1968 and 1975...
862
01:06:06,837 --> 01:06:08,381
[background chatter]
863
01:06:09,131 --> 01:06:12,760
THE COMPLAINTERS, WHO WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TESTIFY
864
01:06:12,843 --> 01:06:15,137
AT THE EXTRADITION HEARING
FROM "BILLY THE BOY",
865
01:06:15,221 --> 01:06:17,264
THEY ORGANIZE THEIR OWN EVENT.
866
01:06:28,734 --> 01:06:30,444
[they greet each other]
867
01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:34,323
CHATO'S COMPANION
868
01:06:38,202 --> 01:06:42,415
[Chato] I have never told him
none of this to the Justa.
869
01:06:44,625 --> 01:06:48,295
Because it's embarrassing, it's rude.
870
01:07:00,933 --> 01:07:03,936
They took my wife to me, they took her there.
My wife was three months pregnant.
871
01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:07,815
and to force her to...
put it there in front of me and say:
872
01:07:07,898 --> 01:07:10,151
"Do it for me and the child,"
They punched him in the stomach.
873
01:07:10,985 --> 01:07:12,945
[man] Thirteen hours straight.
874
01:07:13,612 --> 01:07:17,324
They ended up tearing off my skin in strips.
875
01:07:19,368 --> 01:07:24,123
As they said "Billy the Kid"
and his minions:
876
01:07:24,707 --> 01:07:27,168
"No... Don't get your hopes up,
877
01:07:27,293 --> 01:07:29,295
Nothing will happen to us.
878
01:07:29,754 --> 01:07:33,841
What's more, we will continue to be
the police of the future".
879
01:07:35,259 --> 01:07:37,887
I felt like a piece of shit
880
01:07:37,970 --> 01:07:42,058
who was swung from left to right,
from front to back.
881
01:07:42,183 --> 01:07:45,019
I think the only thing that kept me going
were the impacts
882
01:07:45,102 --> 01:07:47,646
that my body received from them,
883
01:07:47,772 --> 01:07:52,818
as if they competed in the form
hitting me to prevent me from falling.
884
01:07:52,943 --> 01:07:56,697
The tremor was such,
the pain and panic I had,
885
01:07:56,781 --> 01:08:00,534
that I was not aware that my feet
They will touch the ground at no time.
886
01:08:01,494 --> 01:08:05,122
[Chato] They handcuffed my hands
behind the back
887
01:08:05,206 --> 01:08:09,085
and they started hitting my head,
grabbed by the hair,
888
01:08:09,168 --> 01:08:13,005
against the edge of the table.
889
01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:17,093
What I was most afraid of was singing.
890
01:08:17,176 --> 01:08:21,514
The formula to resist it was...
I was thinking of a scene.
891
01:08:21,597 --> 01:08:27,144
There was the same table,
the same hitmen beating me,
892
01:08:27,228 --> 01:08:32,441
but around, sitting,
my friends were there, my father...
893
01:08:34,610 --> 01:08:36,737
the people he loved the most.
894
01:08:36,862 --> 01:08:39,281
And I couldn't let them down.
895
01:08:41,826 --> 01:08:45,788
[shaking voice]
That was the way to try to hold on.
896
01:08:45,871 --> 01:08:52,378
But the people were erasing you
when you discovered that you were naked,
897
01:08:52,503 --> 01:08:56,590
that they had hung you,
They were hitting you on the buttocks,
898
01:08:56,674 --> 01:08:58,384
on the soles of the feet,
899
01:08:58,509 --> 01:09:00,469
in the genitals...
900
01:09:00,594 --> 01:09:05,516
I remember thinking:
"You're never going to fuck again in your life."
901
01:09:06,851 --> 01:09:11,063
And I was 22 years old, and I had just started.
902
01:09:12,481 --> 01:09:16,527
I was not a person,
probably not even an animal,
903
01:09:16,652 --> 01:09:19,655
It was a thing that was there.
904
01:09:21,115 --> 01:09:25,119
Who was there when he was 22 years old,
very afraid and determined to endure.
905
01:09:25,244 --> 01:09:27,371
To endure now out of anger.
906
01:09:28,247 --> 01:09:29,957
I'm telling you the truth...
907
01:09:30,541 --> 01:09:33,169
Not even because of my political beliefs.
908
01:09:33,794 --> 01:09:35,838
Out of rage.
909
01:09:36,463 --> 01:09:39,175
Because I was a human being.
910
01:09:43,679 --> 01:09:45,764
[applause]
911
01:10:10,456 --> 01:10:14,084
For many years...
The only thing we wanted was
912
01:10:14,168 --> 01:10:16,212
also erase from our heads
913
01:10:16,337 --> 01:10:19,465
all that time of bitterness
914
01:10:20,591 --> 01:10:23,636
and repression, right? I don't know...
915
01:10:23,761 --> 01:10:26,764
I think maybe between all of us...
916
01:10:28,015 --> 01:10:31,352
Maybe we have collaborated a little, right?
In that silence.
917
01:10:31,477 --> 01:10:34,146
But hey, you realize that later.
918
01:10:37,483 --> 01:10:41,195
People don't forget so easily.
919
01:10:42,947 --> 01:10:46,450
Even if you want to, it's not easy.
920
01:11:00,673 --> 01:11:02,675
[mermaid]
921
01:11:02,841 --> 01:11:06,136
[crowd shouts]
Extradition of the torturers!
922
01:11:12,685 --> 01:11:14,979
[screams and applause]
923
01:11:17,564 --> 01:11:20,025
"BILLY THE BOY"
924
01:11:20,734 --> 01:11:22,236
[judge] Antonio González Pacheco,
925
01:11:22,361 --> 01:11:23,779
do you have any problem
926
01:11:23,862 --> 01:11:26,740
in which your image is recorded directly
by the media?
927
01:11:26,824 --> 01:11:28,325
Do you expressly consent to it or not?
928
01:11:28,450 --> 01:11:30,035
[Billy] I don't allow it.
929
01:11:30,536 --> 01:11:31,704
[judge] It will be authorized
930
01:11:31,787 --> 01:11:33,956
the entrance of the cameras
exclusively to carry out
931
01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:35,207
a sweep from behind.
932
01:11:35,332 --> 01:11:38,502
You can use
all voice recording systems
933
01:11:38,585 --> 01:11:40,004
that they deem relevant.
934
01:11:40,921 --> 01:11:42,631
Do you know the facts
by whom it is claimed?
935
01:11:42,715 --> 01:11:43,674
[Billy] Yes.
936
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:47,845
[judge] Do you consent to the surrender,
to be tried in Argentina?
937
01:11:47,928 --> 01:11:49,138
[Billy] No, not at all.
938
01:11:51,473 --> 01:11:53,559
[lawyer] With your permission, your honor,
939
01:11:53,642 --> 01:11:56,061
the effects of the Amnesty Law
would mean extinction
940
01:11:56,395 --> 01:11:59,732
of any type of responsibility
hypothetical that could be established.
941
01:12:01,483 --> 01:12:04,570
And therefore, we request
to be totally rejected
942
01:12:04,695 --> 01:12:08,407
the extradition request
by Don Antonio González Pacheco.
943
01:12:14,330 --> 01:12:15,873
[clamors]
944
01:12:19,001 --> 01:12:21,545
[man] Show your face, coward!
945
01:12:27,676 --> 01:12:29,094
[man] Murderer!
946
01:12:30,095 --> 01:12:35,601
[journalist] No Spanish television
has never recorded his face... until today.
947
01:12:35,684 --> 01:12:40,689
It's Juan Antonio González Pacheco,
also known as "Billy the Kid."
948
01:12:43,359 --> 01:12:46,028
Hello, Mr. Pacheco.
I have a couple of questions for you.
949
01:12:46,111 --> 01:12:48,447
- Leave me.
- Hey, please.
950
01:12:48,989 --> 01:12:50,324
[laughs]
951
01:12:51,241 --> 01:12:54,328
Do you know that the Argentine justice system
Have you requested his extradition?
952
01:12:54,661 --> 01:12:56,080
[Billy] Leave me alone!
953
01:12:56,497 --> 01:12:59,208
[journalist] Haven't you ever considered
ask for forgiveness, after 40 years?
954
01:12:59,333 --> 01:13:00,667
[Billy] Leave me alone!
955
01:13:02,378 --> 01:13:06,090
[Chato] There is one thing for me
which particularly pisses me off.
956
01:13:06,215 --> 01:13:12,054
It's when people say: "No, it's just that
you are moved by a feeling of revenge."
957
01:13:13,305 --> 01:13:17,518
It can be understood that I seek revenge
958
01:13:17,601 --> 01:13:23,774
if you think that seeking justice
is seeking revenge.
959
01:13:34,451 --> 01:13:36,954
Forgiveness is an individual matter.
960
01:13:37,079 --> 01:13:40,666
A State cannot forgive, right?
the crimes.
961
01:13:44,169 --> 01:13:47,339
[in Catalan] Forgetting does not lead to forgiveness,
nor to...
962
01:13:47,423 --> 01:13:49,800
I think it generates more hate.
963
01:13:55,097 --> 01:13:58,725
[woman in Spanish] Nobody until now
He has asked us for forgiveness.
964
01:13:59,351 --> 01:14:02,604
It is demanded of you, it is not asked of you,
you are required to forgive.
965
01:14:07,067 --> 01:14:08,861
[Ascension] It cannot be forgiven.
966
01:14:09,570 --> 01:14:13,157
You can forget, but not forgive.
967
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:14,992
Of course, yes, I forgive you,
968
01:14:15,117 --> 01:14:18,412
to you, natural person
who did an awful lot
969
01:14:18,495 --> 01:14:22,332
because I was in service
from a regime that tortured me.
970
01:14:24,251 --> 01:14:25,836
But I demand justice.
971
01:14:26,336 --> 01:14:30,757
Because they illegally convicted me
and you have gone without a hitch.
972
01:14:35,554 --> 01:14:38,140
[journalist] The National Court
he is also not going to extradite to Argentina
973
01:14:38,223 --> 01:14:42,019
to the former police inspector
known as "Billy the Kid."
974
01:14:42,102 --> 01:14:43,187
The judges hold
975
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:45,063
that the crimes of torture
allegedly committed during the Franco regime
976
01:14:45,147 --> 01:14:49,902
they have prescribed and are not against humanity.
977
01:14:51,737 --> 01:14:54,656
[everyone shouts]
Repeal Amnesty Law!
978
01:14:54,740 --> 01:14:58,577
Universal justice from Latin America!
979
01:14:58,702 --> 01:15:00,579
[screams continue]
980
01:15:00,662 --> 01:15:05,751
Crimes against humanity, never,
They never prescribe!
981
01:15:06,710 --> 01:15:10,964
to us
and hundreds of thousands of victims,
982
01:15:11,089 --> 01:15:14,218
They have denied us the right to justice!
983
01:15:17,137 --> 01:15:19,264
[bells ringing]
984
01:15:26,772 --> 01:15:28,857
[the ringing of bells continues]
985
01:15:32,277 --> 01:15:33,445
Thank you.
986
01:15:36,073 --> 01:15:37,616
It has been left.
987
01:15:38,534 --> 01:15:40,786
Life has taken its toll on him.
988
01:15:41,328 --> 01:15:42,579
[cries]
989
01:15:42,663 --> 01:15:44,039
[mumble]
990
01:16:11,149 --> 01:16:13,151
[somber string music plays]
991
01:16:50,314 --> 01:16:55,444
[broken voice] He left without having seen
fulfilled... all that he fought for.
992
01:16:56,612 --> 01:17:03,118
That she was there now
accompanying the remains of his mother.
993
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,722
[soft piano music plays]
994
01:17:38,737 --> 01:17:40,739
[unintelligible chatter]
995
01:17:47,037 --> 01:17:48,246
Hey...
996
01:17:48,330 --> 01:17:50,290
Gentlemen, news.
997
01:17:50,374 --> 01:17:54,086
The Servini has ordered the arrest,
998
01:17:54,169 --> 01:18:00,926
for investigative statements,
or whatever that is, of 20 defendants.
999
01:18:01,009 --> 01:18:04,680
There is Martín Villa and there is Utrera Molina.
1000
01:18:04,763 --> 01:18:07,015
[Carlos exclaims and laughs]
1001
01:18:07,099 --> 01:18:09,017
- How good!
- [laughs]
1002
01:18:09,101 --> 01:18:10,560
[Chato] Martín Villa!
1003
01:18:10,686 --> 01:18:12,020
- [Carlos] How good!
- [phone rings]
1004
01:18:12,104 --> 01:18:15,023
- [Chato] That has to be moved...
- [Carlos] They are all there.
1005
01:18:17,943 --> 01:18:20,904
Did you find out?
Yes, I just received the resolution.
1006
01:18:21,029 --> 01:18:22,239
- I'll send it to you now.
- [phone rings]
1007
01:18:22,322 --> 01:18:27,244
I am more and more convinced
that justice will be done.
1008
01:18:27,327 --> 01:18:33,375
We believe that this clamor and this claim
against impunity will overcome that...
1009
01:18:33,458 --> 01:18:34,668
[laughs]
1010
01:18:34,751 --> 01:18:36,002
[phones ring]
1011
01:18:39,423 --> 01:18:41,425
[journalist] Judge Servini
has ordered the arrest
1012
01:18:41,550 --> 01:18:44,594
of 20 ministers,
a doctor accused of stealing babies,
1013
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,764
judges, lawyers
and a vice president, Martín Villa.
1014
01:18:49,099 --> 01:18:51,727
[Villa] I want to testify before the judge.
1015
01:18:51,810 --> 01:18:55,856
The best solution is the commission
rogatory, the judge comes to Spain
1016
01:18:55,939 --> 01:18:58,900
to interrogate those he has accused.
1017
01:18:58,984 --> 01:19:03,363
Spanish justice has to allow me
take their statement.
1018
01:19:04,030 --> 01:19:06,491
If they authorize us, we come.
1019
01:19:07,576 --> 01:19:10,203
[María Mercedes] The doctor who treated me
is charged
1020
01:19:10,287 --> 01:19:12,247
thanks to the Argentine complaint.
1021
01:19:13,165 --> 01:19:16,626
It's one more step to know the truth.
1022
01:19:17,961 --> 01:19:20,338
We are asking for justice and truth.
1023
01:19:21,089 --> 01:19:23,675
It's the only thing we have left.
1024
01:19:25,802 --> 01:19:27,971
JANUARY 2016
1025
01:19:28,054 --> 01:19:30,557
5 AND A HALF YEARS
SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE COMPLAINT
1026
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:36,313
311 COMPLAINTERS
1027
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:37,939
[camera clicks]
1028
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,611
Oh my gosh, how famous!
1029
01:19:45,489 --> 01:19:46,615
How overwhelmed I am.
1030
01:19:46,740 --> 01:19:49,659
- [Ascension] Oh my goodness.
- Hold on tight. [laughs]
1031
01:19:49,785 --> 01:19:51,453
I'm so overwhelmed that I'm dying.
1032
01:19:56,291 --> 01:20:00,128
Would you have liked
not having to travel 10,000 kilometers
1033
01:20:00,253 --> 01:20:01,588
Why is this happening today?
1034
01:20:01,713 --> 01:20:04,966
But I did them, when I was 88 years old.
1035
01:20:06,968 --> 01:20:11,097
And I would do it again
If I had to go again.
1036
01:20:12,474 --> 01:20:14,559
[coordinator] They are graves,
all common graves.
1037
01:20:15,185 --> 01:20:17,646
This is another mass grave,
another mass grave, another mass grave...
1038
01:20:17,729 --> 01:20:20,440
They are mass graves, one next to the other.
1039
01:20:21,441 --> 01:20:23,777
Well, the equipment, where do I have...?
Is the whole team here?
1040
01:20:25,028 --> 01:20:27,405
We will make a perimeter as usual.
1041
01:20:27,489 --> 01:20:30,867
The people we are going to be
working in the pit, you know who they are.
1042
01:20:33,995 --> 01:20:35,539
[unintelligible chatter]
1043
01:20:56,810 --> 01:20:57,978
[sighs]
1044
01:20:58,478 --> 01:20:59,563
[sobs]
1045
01:21:17,372 --> 01:21:18,832
[takes a deep breath]
1046
01:21:18,915 --> 01:21:21,126
SON OF ASCENSION
1047
01:21:45,567 --> 01:21:46,985
Object one...
1048
01:21:49,154 --> 01:21:50,614
Projectile.
1049
01:21:52,032 --> 01:21:53,074
[camera clicks]
1050
01:21:53,158 --> 01:21:54,618
The first body
1051
01:21:54,701 --> 01:21:58,288
has very clear evidence
that he is a murdered person.
1052
01:21:59,122 --> 01:22:02,042
And from there a slow work,
very calm.
1053
01:22:02,459 --> 01:22:03,960
[Ascension] I mean, it will take a few days...
1054
01:22:04,044 --> 01:22:05,503
It will take several days.
1055
01:22:14,804 --> 01:22:19,184
ONE WEEK LATER
1056
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,817
Had you found each other
Have you ever had a grave this deep?
1057
01:22:28,318 --> 01:22:30,820
In a cemetery, never.
1058
01:22:32,072 --> 01:22:36,576
That is having the amount very premeditated.
of people they wanted to put inside.
1059
01:22:36,701 --> 01:22:37,994
[unintelligible]
1060
01:22:39,663 --> 01:22:42,165
Opening a grave with 22 people implies
1061
01:22:42,290 --> 01:22:46,252
than many other families
they can recover those remains.
1062
01:22:47,963 --> 01:22:51,257
[woman] We are family
by Tomás Vicente Lorente.
1063
01:22:51,591 --> 01:22:54,427
And we have come to claim it, of course.
1064
01:22:55,136 --> 01:22:57,722
I have my father there, on 13.
1065
01:22:57,806 --> 01:23:00,058
Look at my uncle at 28 years old, he was a child!
1066
01:23:00,725 --> 01:23:02,852
[man] Well there is
one of 25 shepherds.
1067
01:23:02,936 --> 01:23:05,063
It has no explanation.
1068
01:23:05,188 --> 01:23:08,733
Because if there is a war
and they confront each other,
1069
01:23:08,817 --> 01:23:09,818
well that's how it is.
1070
01:23:09,943 --> 01:23:11,111
But then they shoot you
1071
01:23:11,194 --> 01:23:15,115
more than because you think differently,
there is no right to that.
1072
01:23:24,916 --> 01:23:26,960
[melancholic string music plays]
1073
01:25:12,232 --> 01:25:13,858
[keyboard clacking]
1074
01:25:17,028 --> 01:25:18,822
[María Ángeles] Lord...
1075
01:25:18,947 --> 01:25:24,661
of the Supreme Court...
1076
01:25:25,620 --> 01:25:26,871
from Madrid.
1077
01:25:29,124 --> 01:25:31,126
It has cost me a lot to get involved,
1078
01:25:31,251 --> 01:25:36,422
because the most comfortable thing is for you to continue
with your life and not get into these troubles.
1079
01:25:38,591 --> 01:25:40,718
...and with all my pain...
1080
01:25:41,302 --> 01:25:45,431
I send you greetings...
1081
01:25:46,182 --> 01:25:49,018
of this woman...
1082
01:25:50,562 --> 01:25:54,649
what's still waiting...
1083
01:25:54,732 --> 01:25:57,735
that the frogs...
1084
01:26:00,822 --> 01:26:02,615
[sighs] ...raise hair.
1085
01:26:07,954 --> 01:26:09,247
[unintelligible chatter]
1086
01:26:10,748 --> 01:26:14,627
My mother would never have imagined
1087
01:26:14,752 --> 01:26:17,380
that I had gotten so involved.
1088
01:26:19,799 --> 01:26:22,594
I would be very proud.
1089
01:26:30,310 --> 01:26:35,315
I believe that if the Spanish judges
They will hear what I heard,
1090
01:26:35,398 --> 01:26:38,568
They would open the causes here more.
1091
01:26:39,152 --> 01:26:43,364
This is what happened in Chile with the Pinochet issue.
1092
01:26:43,448 --> 01:26:46,743
They refused to investigate
until there came a time when,
1093
01:26:46,826 --> 01:26:50,371
about all the tests
who had come together,
1094
01:26:50,455 --> 01:26:52,165
they condemned
1095
01:26:52,916 --> 01:26:55,168
I think that in the long run
1096
01:26:56,252 --> 01:27:00,131
They are going to get it investigated here.
1097
01:27:02,717 --> 01:27:06,554
[narrator] Many cases of justice
universal never come to trial,
1098
01:27:06,679 --> 01:27:12,101
but they can trigger changes
within the investigated country.
1099
01:27:13,978 --> 01:27:16,022
Despite the resistance,
1100
01:27:16,147 --> 01:27:20,026
several regional and autonomous governments
they have passed laws
1101
01:27:20,109 --> 01:27:21,527
to recognize the victims,
1102
01:27:21,611 --> 01:27:25,740
exhume mass graves
and investigate cases of stolen babies.
1103
01:27:29,619 --> 01:27:34,624
Maybe, finally,
let us be prepared to remember.
1104
01:27:35,583 --> 01:27:38,294
MADRID CITY COUNCIL
1105
01:27:41,381 --> 01:27:43,967
[Mayer] The debate about war
or about the violence of dictatorships
1106
01:27:44,092 --> 01:27:46,135
should never remain
in the private sphere.
1107
01:27:46,219 --> 01:27:47,387
COUNCIL OF CULTURE
1108
01:27:47,470 --> 01:27:49,931
It should always be in the bosom
of democratic institutions.
1109
01:27:50,056 --> 01:27:51,516
And therefore I consider today a great day
1110
01:27:51,599 --> 01:27:54,560
in addition to democratic maturation
that we can bring it here.
1111
01:27:55,645 --> 01:27:58,189
The streets that we are going to pass
to be removed will be:
1112
01:27:58,731 --> 01:28:02,527
Plaza de Arriba España, Chamartín.
Francoist motto par excellence.
1113
01:28:03,569 --> 01:28:05,822
Caudillo Square,
in Fuencarral-El Pardo.
1114
01:28:06,322 --> 01:28:08,825
Victory Arch Avenue
Moncloa-Aravaca.
1115
01:28:09,951 --> 01:28:11,786
General Yagüe Street, Tetuán.
1116
01:28:11,869 --> 01:28:14,163
This is mine.
1117
01:28:15,331 --> 01:28:19,335
[Carmena] Now we move on to do
the vote on the original text.
1118
01:28:19,419 --> 01:28:20,878
MAYOR OF MADRID
1119
01:28:20,962 --> 01:28:22,505
Citizens municipal group?
1120
01:28:22,630 --> 01:28:23,715
[spokesperson] In favor.
1121
01:28:24,632 --> 01:28:25,591
[Carmena] Very good.
1122
01:28:27,010 --> 01:28:28,344
Socialist party?
1123
01:28:28,428 --> 01:28:29,679
In favor.
1124
01:28:30,263 --> 01:28:31,681
[Carmena] Popular Party?
1125
01:28:34,434 --> 01:28:35,685
Against.
1126
01:28:36,102 --> 01:28:36,978
[Carmena] Against.
1127
01:28:37,061 --> 01:28:38,646
Good. Municipal group Now Madrid?
1128
01:28:38,730 --> 01:28:39,689
In favor.
1129
01:28:39,772 --> 01:28:43,443
Well, this proposal has been approved,
thank you very much everyone.
1130
01:29:02,879 --> 01:29:04,881
[melancholic string music plays]
1131
01:29:18,811 --> 01:29:20,521
[camera clicks]
1132
01:29:26,402 --> 01:29:28,738
- Are you okay there?
- [Ascension] I'm doing well.
1133
01:29:28,821 --> 01:29:29,781
Slowly.
1134
01:29:36,454 --> 01:29:37,747
Calm down, huh?
1135
01:29:45,004 --> 01:29:46,297
[Ascension cries]
1136
01:29:49,967 --> 01:29:51,511
Let's go through.
1137
01:29:57,308 --> 01:29:59,852
- [Ascension] The time has come.
- [coordinator] The time has come.
1138
01:29:59,936 --> 01:30:01,395
[Chon cries]
1139
01:30:03,564 --> 01:30:04,982
[Chon] Look, mom.
1140
01:30:06,943 --> 01:30:08,986
Where it says 19...
1141
01:30:12,448 --> 01:30:15,368
[Ascension cries]
Poor thing, dear father!
1142
01:30:16,327 --> 01:30:20,498
All life underground, dear father!
1143
01:30:21,082 --> 01:30:23,167
[Ascension exclaims and cries] Oh, father!
1144
01:30:30,341 --> 01:30:33,177
Mom, if you wanted to come see him!
You've already seen him.
1145
01:30:33,261 --> 01:30:34,137
That's it, that's it.
1146
01:30:34,262 --> 01:30:37,765
[Ascension continues crying]
Yes. Yes I wanted to, I'm fine.
1147
01:30:41,394 --> 01:30:42,520
[soft guitar music plays]
1148
01:30:49,527 --> 01:30:52,071
[Luis Pastor] ♪ Lost peace. ♪
1149
01:30:52,196 --> 01:30:53,406
[sobs]
1150
01:30:53,948 --> 01:30:56,075
♪ Lost the case. ♪
1151
01:30:58,452 --> 01:31:00,955
♪ Lost dreams. ♪
1152
01:31:03,082 --> 01:31:05,293
♪ Homeland lost. ♪
1153
01:31:07,420 --> 01:31:09,338
♪ Lost of all. ♪
1154
01:31:11,799 --> 01:31:14,218
♪ Lost from Spain. ♪
1155
01:31:16,053 --> 01:31:18,264
♪ In no man's land. ♪
1156
01:31:20,474 --> 01:31:22,935
♪ In fields of rage. ♪
1157
01:31:24,812 --> 01:31:27,190
♪ Here they are and they come back, ♪
1158
01:31:29,233 --> 01:31:31,360
♪ the children of Spain. ♪
1159
01:31:33,821 --> 01:31:36,324
♪ Where a song dies, ♪
1160
01:31:37,617 --> 01:31:40,328
♪ mine rises. ♪
1161
01:31:57,762 --> 01:32:02,350
Ascension had to wait until July 2017
to bury his father,
1162
01:32:02,433 --> 01:32:09,273
after revealing the DNA evidence that his
remains were in the adjacent mass grave.
1163
01:32:13,277 --> 01:32:15,821
To this day, Spain continues to block
extradition to Argentina
1164
01:32:15,905 --> 01:32:17,573
of the accused
1165
01:32:17,657 --> 01:32:24,580
and has not allowed
Let Judge Servini question them.
1166
01:32:26,791 --> 01:32:29,835
There is a movement underway
1167
01:32:29,919 --> 01:32:33,047
so that Congress deprives of effects
the Amnesty Law.
1168
01:32:36,926 --> 01:32:38,469
[wind gusts]
1169
01:32:44,684 --> 01:32:51,649
IN MEMORIAM, CARLOS SLEPOY - 1949-2017
1170
01:32:51,732 --> 01:32:54,068
[soft music plays]